Concerning Cheaters, Hackers, Wallers, and Spammers.

[Carl]

Let me first say that I do not doubt that you have good intentions when you report to me a player who is greifing the server. I know that I am not on as often as I used to be and with out voteban or kick there have been many greifers on the server. I know this makes it a poor playing environment.

However, when you give to me a name and steam id of someone you suspect is hacking, I have no verification whatsoever that the player in question was actually cheating or causing problems. I do not know if you simply changed the name of the player and gave me a random steam id of a server regular. I don't know if they are actually a spectacular cs player and you don't like being killed by them. I don't know if the player who was actually cheating or greifing didn't simply change their name.

This is worsened by the fact that there are still name stealers who take legitimate players' names and then abuse the server. I have no guarantee at all that an anonymous steam id and player name are really the the credentials of the cheating player.

Therefor, if you suspect a person of cheating, greifing, or other malpractice, simply use voteban.

Again: simply use voteban.

I do not care how sure you are that a certain player is cheating, Neither Psyrus nor I will ban a player unless we view the player's actions firsthand. The optimal thing to do is to tell us when the player who is cheating is actually on the server. This allows us to actually join the server using a pseudonym and watch the player. Waiting until the player leaves is the worse thing to do because I have nothing to go on at that point. Do not bother sending us Names or steam id's of suspected greifers. They are meaningless to us.

[Kenny_Duehit]

i entirely understand what you are saying. what if AF (or certain AF, up to you of course) had a 5 min ban? enough to persuade random hackers to just move on.

[Psyrus]

Carl and I have been discussing the notion of making certain individuals moderators. Although Sanchez is trustworthy, and moderates very well, he is only one person (and a busy person). I do understand the necessity for certain levels of administration to be available in Carl's and my absence, but as you know very well, our reticence in terms of endowing members with administrative functions is well founded. But seeing as the need is somewhat urgent, I'll see if I can hasten the process.

[cock goblin]

I do not know if you simply changed the name of the player and gave me a random steam id of a server regular. I don't know if they are actually a spectacular cs player and you don't like being killed by them. I don't know if the player who was actually cheating or greifing didn't simply change their name.

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS

[failure]

would something to keep track of / monitor reported steam id's be too elaborate?

[Psyrus]

The only acceptable means of reporting a hacker is to record a demo of them, and submit to either Carl, or me.

[Kenny_Duehit]

i spend the most time playing css, yet i have not an idea of how this demo things works.....do go on....

[Psyrus]

Type the following in console:

record <demo name> (without brackets, obviously; and any demo name that is two or more words must be contained within quotation marks)

To stop recording, merely type "stop"

[Kenny_Duehit]

and what does this entail? whatever i see on my screen is recorded?

[Psyrus]

Yes.

[Hostie]

where are the files stored?

[Psyrus]

The cstrike folder.

[Cake]

and how do we show you these files?

PS- this seems like alot of work to ban one individual... yes i know we can give you a steam id and say they are hacking... and yes i do know you can't trust some people... but i personaly have never told you to ban a steam id that i personaly and a few others in the room (usualy through steam friends) believe to be hacking... plus when someone goes 74-1... i know some people are good but thats rediculous...

[Psyrus]

It's really not difficult to send me a demo file. Record the thing, cease recording, upload the file somewhere, give me the link in a PM.

Or, alternatively, you can just simply give me the steamid of the supposed hacker, and at the end of each week, I'll polish the Great Hammer and get to work. However, the first method is preferable and is the most likely to get the intended player banned.

[Hostie]

can you make an email for us to send them to? just to cut out having to find a place to host the file

[Kenny_Duehit]

can you make an email for us to send them to? just to cut out having to find a place to host the file

cut the file into 7.99mb chunks, then rename then all to .jpg and stash them in Carls jpg Dump.

[Psyrus]

can you make an email for us to send them to? just to cut out having to find a place to host the file

Yes, send me a private message and I'll give it to you.

[john kerry]

I know you hate this but maybe this is enough proof.
Hes mic spamming loud static.
Taking players names to try to get them banned (as you can see mine)
and he keeps jumping out before ban was full voted



STEAM_0:1:12548706

[Kenny_Duehit]

a jailbreak server in your fav's..... weak

[john kerry]

a jailbreak server in your fav's..... weak

now now..it was ben that showed me that server =]